Cyrillic support and other ideas

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Cyrillic support and other ideas

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Hello, will you support Cyrillic fonts? And one more question: is it possible to right-click on Jing and make a button to remove silence?
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Re: Cyrillic support and other ideas

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Hi,

Sorry, no cyrillic support is planed.
About removing silence, you can move the start position, un Effects and position menu.
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It's a shame that Cyrillic support isn't planned. Since I've already started a new post, I'll write here to avoid cluttering the forum.

I would like the palettes to be displayed as separate buttons rather than a list. Also, the palette playing a jingle should blink. Otherwise, a jingle playing from another palette might obscure the one I need. If you don't mind, I can add my ideas to this thread.
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Standard controls like text boxes, list boxes, combo boxed of VB6 does not handle cyrillic and some other characters sets. To handle that, it could eventually possible with changing for other custom controls (without beiing sure that it would not create other problems beside). This require a lot of work to do that.

About palettes list, blinking or not, list or buttons, won't avoid that playing jingle will hide the new one needed while playing. The best way still better organizing jingles and palettes to prevent this case of situation :)

About blinking palette on the list, this is not possible with ListBox.

About buttons instead of list, you mean something like that ?
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Re: Cyrillic support and other ideas

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Since I’ve already started, I will continue the list for everyone to see:

Cyrillic support.

Trim silence: Auto-remove silence at the beginning and end of tracks.

Played status: A visual marker indicating if a jingle has already been played.

Consolidate files: A button to copy all files from the current palette into a single folder (this is useful when a palette is compiled from files located in different folders).

UI improvement: Use buttons instead of a list for selecting palettes (it looks much better).

Playback behavior: An option to disable 'carrying over' the playing jingle when switching palettes (currently, it obscures other jingles). Instead, if we switch to a different palette while a jingle is playing, the button for the original palette should just flash/blink.
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phoenixxxl wrote: Thu Dec 25, 2025 11:10 pmCyrillic support.
Not planned, as previously explained.
phoenixxxl wrote: Thu Dec 25, 2025 11:10 pmTrim silence: Auto-remove silence at the beginning and end of tracks.
You can manually define the Start position. About auto triming, I take note, but no delay is known.
phoenixxxl wrote: Thu Dec 25, 2025 11:10 pmPlayed status: A visual marker indicating if a jingle has already been played
How about resetting this marker ? On palette change ? On exiting JP ?
phoenixxxl wrote: Thu Dec 25, 2025 11:10 pmConsolidate files: A button to copy all files from the current palette into a single folder (this is useful when a palette is compiled from files located in different folders).
By default, JP copy the file into Audio_Sample/Import directory on palette save.
phoenixxxl wrote: Thu Dec 25, 2025 11:10 pmAn option to disable 'carrying over' the playing jingle when switching palettes (currently, it obscures other jingles). Instead, if we switch to a different palette while a jingle is playing, the button for the original palette should just flash/blink.
Loading a palette launches a For loop from 0 to 29 (in case of 30 buttons per palette), to load each button. If a button is already playing, it can't load the new ont, as well the "slot" is already busy. The DisplayAndButtons timer (which manage buttons color changing, remaning time bars etc) trigger loading the new jingle that was waiting, when the playback of actua jingle is finished. I think that overide this system , will stop the playback of actual jingle. I note the idea but here too, no delay is known.
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Re: Cyrillic support and other ideas

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Couin wrote: Thu Dec 25, 2025 11:56 pm You can manually define the Start position. About auto triming, I take note, but no delay is known.

I am aware of this feature, but it adds an extra indicator to the button and isn't suitable for a fast workflow.

Regarding Cyrillic support: its absence breaks the palette list. It creates empty cells that are impossible to delete (this wasn't visible in the video, but on my computer, I clicked 'delete' and the palette remained). Also, renaming a file that contains Cyrillic characters results in garbled text.

Regarding the issue of the playing jingle covering the buttons: I think the video clearly shows what I meant. The jingle I need gets covered by the one currently playing from a different palette.

Suggestion: When switching to a different palette, the currently playing jingle could shrink to half the button size. This way, it wouldn't fully block the button underneath.

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Couin wrote: Thu Dec 25, 2025 11:56 pm How about resetting this marker ? On palette change ? On exiting JP ?
"I think it's best to reset the 'played jingle' marker when exiting the program. Alternatively, the button could show the playback time, but I think that would be hard to implement. Everyone has different button sizes, and if they are really small, displaying the time would be a problem."
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I have another idea. Sometimes I need to add 10-20 jingles to a palette at once, and adding them one by one is problematic. I need a feature that allows me to drop multiple files at once. They should automatically populate the buttons sequentially (from left to right), starting from the specific button where I dropped them, and be sorted by filename.
Please add the ability to swap or rearrange buttons on the palette. Sometimes, after assembling a palette of 40 jingles from various folders, the layout just doesn't feel right (it's not 'Feng Shui' :)). I would like to be able to move them around freely, just like moving app icons on a smartphone.
Another idea: Sometimes I am adding jingles, but I need to switch to a different palette to find a specific sound (e.g., applause). Currently, if I switch palettes, the jingles I just added disappear when I return.
Changes should be preserved in memory during the active session (so they don't disappear when switching tabs).
When closing the program, there should be a prompt asking if I want to save these changes permanently."
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Your google link requires a google account. Set it as public or try to upload on another plateform like Youtube.
But I know of what about you talk.
It's not a problem of button drawing (even if just that would need a lot of code), but of logical slot. When a jingle of a slot (for example jingle "5") is playing, the slot is locked until the jingle playback finishes. So not possible to load another jingle on this slot while playing. There is no button over another button. Again, a better jingle arranging would be easier.
About marking as played/played tiome, honesty, I have difficulties to see the real goal of this (especially the played time). Can you develop ?
About loading several jingles, I note the multiple drop idea. Actually, you have not to click on Assign jingle, select the button , browse the file, to load a jingle, you can drag the file from Windows explorer and drop it on the button you want, it will load the jingle on the button.
To rearrange (move) jingles on a palette, you can use the CTRL key of keyboard + click on the jingle to move and click on the button you want to send it.
Moving buttons like smartphone icons is not possible.
About jingle disappearing on palette change, this is normal, you have to save (a floppy disk icon appears on the display when you change something on a palette) , just click on it to quick save the palette (and not loose modifications). You can also enable auto-save in the Settings).
Memorizing changes during a session, when palette switch, is not possible. Still always from the same reason, its not a slot for each jingles of each palette, but a slot by button.
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